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Topic Communal Desert Species

Post by shaneshac on Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:27 pm

Hi guys

I have had a nice idea for a desert scorp tank but would like to put more than one in there

I have read that some spp even though not communal will tolerate each other if only one female and a few males live together

Can someone confirm this and if so, which spp would it be possible to do this with?

Thanks
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Topic Re: Communal Desert Species

Post by Shadowfoot on Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:07 pm

Quite a few desert species will tolerate each other when adult. Hottentotta species do very well together when adult, as do Mesobuthus species. Uroplectes species can also be put together. The main thing to remember is not to keep them together at lower instars as this will most probably lead to cannibalism.
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Topic Re: Communal Desert Species

Post by shaneshac on Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:32 am

Ok thanks, i was thinking a few adults

Do you know if 3 adult Androctonus australis would tolerate each other in a largish enclosure?
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Topic Re: Communal Desert Species

Post by Shadowfoot on Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:48 am

Androctonus aren't my speciality. I think GS is the authority on them so let's see what he says.
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Topic Re: Communal Desert Species

Post by shaneshac on Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:53 am

Would any of the large Parabuthus be suited do you think?

And if so, what ratio males to females?
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Post by Shadowfoot on Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:26 am

For Parabuthus I would only go for 1.1 but always remember that accidents can happen. The enclosure should also be big enough so contact is limited, my recommended size for 1.1 would be 50cmx30cm(LxB), height not being a factor.
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Topic Re: Communal Desert Species

Post by shaneshac on Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:31 am

Thanks, when I eventually get round to completing the project I will let you all know

I have a male P villosus on the way so could put the pair into this new viv
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Topic Re: Communal Desert Species

Post by bubotmcawesome on Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:26 pm

HH and I think P. Trans are communal as well, if given ample amounts of space and hides. Smile
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Topic Re: Communal Desert Species

Post by shaneshac on Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:47 pm

Good to hear. Thanks for the info
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Topic Re: Communal Desert Species

Post by DolbyR on Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:12 am

I can also recommend Mesobuthus, they are well knows for being communal, same with SOME Hottetotta spp.

But as Shadowfoot already pointed out, accidents can always happen.

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Topic Re: Communal Desert Species

Post by GS on Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:49 pm

shaneshac wrote:Ok thanks, i was thinking a few adults
Do you know if 3 adult Androctonus australis would tolerate each other in a largish enclosure?

I do keep selected groups of Androctonus australis in cluster of 3 without much issues. If a female within one of these groups is found to be gravid, it will be isolated.

Apart from the usual concern such as the overall floor space of the enclosure, the no. of hides...

Husbandry and observation of how the group work around each other during their interaction can be useful to determine the success of such cohabitation as well.

E.g. After a sexually matured pair has completed a mating ritual. Some females do exhibit "aggression" or "irritable" behavior towards approaching specimen(s) (which can be the male whom she has just mated with, or it can be the other occupants in the same enclosure), this is when a large floor space and hides are useful for retreating parties to seek refuge.

Let us know if you have more questions or need clarification on the above.

Shadowfoot wrote:Androctonus aren't my speciality. I think GS is the authority on them so let's see what he says.
Thanks Shadowfoot. Am glad to share the little things I know Smile

DolbyR wrote:I can also recommend Mesobuthus, they are well knows for being communal, same with SOME Hottetotta spp.

But as Shadowfoot already pointed out, accidents can always happen.

Agree on both.

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Topic Re: Communal Desert Species

Post by shaneshac on Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:53 am

Thanks guys. I have two male hectors at 5i so may try it when i eventually find a female of this species.
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Topic Re: Communal Desert Species

Post by Ivymike1973 on Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:45 pm

Androctonus mauretanicus are a great communal species.
I have a 1.4. group in a single enclosure and have had no issues (and 4 gravid females) so far.

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