Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
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Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
by coolswitch Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:50 am
Hi Guys,
Just need some help to confirm if she is gravid or just in premolt...
- she was mated between may and June of 2013. I have a friend who has a ptrans which was mated 2 wks after I got mine mated, and his already popped few days ago
Just need some help to confirm if she is gravid or just in premolt...
- she was mated between may and June of 2013. I have a friend who has a ptrans which was mated 2 wks after I got mine mated, and his already popped few days ago
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Re: Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
by coolswitch Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:46 am
Here's some additional pics if it will help
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Re: Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
by GS Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:35 am
Hi,
For Parabuthus transvaalicus, embryos are usually visible at the final gestation period of a gravid female specimen. I can't see embryos from the pictures above, but it does not mean that she is not gravid
It could be due to the angle of the shots, or the lighting.
Here's some pictures for your reference.
Pre-molt:
Visibility of embryos of a gravid Parabuthus transvaalicus:
Measurement of an 8.instar:
More details at [HOW TO] Tell if your Scorpion is Gravid:
http://www.allscorpionarchives.com/t15-how-to-tell-if-your-scorpion-is-gravid
You mentioned that your pair were "mated between may and June of 2013". Was it a communal setup for the pair, or was it a mate and separate till the next "mating session"?
For Parabuthus transvaalicus, embryos are usually visible at the final gestation period of a gravid female specimen. I can't see embryos from the pictures above, but it does not mean that she is not gravid
It could be due to the angle of the shots, or the lighting.Here's some pictures for your reference.
Pre-molt:
Visibility of embryos of a gravid Parabuthus transvaalicus:
Measurement of an 8.instar:
More details at [HOW TO] Tell if your Scorpion is Gravid:
http://www.allscorpionarchives.com/t15-how-to-tell-if-your-scorpion-is-gravid
You mentioned that your pair were "mated between may and June of 2013". Was it a communal setup for the pair, or was it a mate and separate till the next "mating session"?
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Re: Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
by coolswitch Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:42 pm
Hi GS,
Thanks for the reply. I did check out the thread on how to tell if it's gravid, it's just that I may not be experienced to tell if what I'm already looking at is a possible embryo
it was not a communal setup, it was a mate and go
Thanks for the reply. I did check out the thread on how to tell if it's gravid, it's just that I may not be experienced to tell if what I'm already looking at is a possible embryo
it was not a communal setup, it was a mate and go
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Re: Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
by GS Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:50 pm
How many mating session took place? Over an interval (duration) between each "session"? With the same male or?
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Re: Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
by coolswitch Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:22 am
2x-3x total sessions, once every 6-7 days, if I recall correctly, for a total of 2 wks
Same male
Same male
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Re: Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
by coolswitch Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:28 am
Is this it or not?
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Re: Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
by ShredderEmp Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:57 pm
Looks like an embryo!
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Re: Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
by coolswitch Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:38 am
This scorp is now really starting to confuse me 
It seems to accept the attempt, along the way it becomes aggressive and reluctant, then goes back to being submissive again
It seems to accept the attempt, along the way it becomes aggressive and reluctant, then goes back to being submissive again
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Re: Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
by Rainbows Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:05 pm
If you think shes gravid, shouldn't you remove the male from the same tank as her now? keep them separated so the male doesn't stress her out?
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Re: Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
by coolswitch Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:18 am
I dunno what to think of it anymore 
well I guess it's just a wait and see game, now.
If she's gravid and pops, great
if not, molts, then she would be my first 8i
but I prefer she's gravid.... cheers everyone
well I guess it's just a wait and see game, now.If she's gravid and pops, great
if not, molts, then she would be my first 8i
but I prefer she's gravid.... cheers everyone
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Re: Gravid or PreMolt to 8i (Parabuthus Transvaalicus)
by GS Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:05 am
coolswitch wrote:Is this it or not?
From this image, it doesn't look like embryo(s).
coolswitch wrote:This scorp is now really starting to confuse me
It seems to accept the attempt, along the way it becomes aggressive and reluctant, then goes back to being submissive again
They do that sometimes.. just like humans actually.. lolz
Rainbows wrote:If you think shes gravid, shouldn't you remove the male from the same tank as her now? keep them separated so the male doesn't stress her out?
Good point. Safer that way if we are almost sure of her being gravid.
coolswitch wrote:I dunno what to think of it anymore
If she's gravid and pops, great
if not, molts, then she would be my first 8i
but I prefer she's gravid.... cheers everyone
I have experience on waiting for 16 months.. only to find a huge pile of undeveloped embryos. While another smaller female gives birth to almost 80 scorplings in just 9-10 months.
Yeah, sometimes they really like to surprise us(keepers) when we least expect it to happen. Healthy specimens are indeed a comfort. Regardless they are "baby making machines" or not
Good luck!
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